also sprach nietzsche I care estem

Am fost intrebat de unde vine titlul blogului si n-am raspuns, pentru ca raspunsul ar fi fost mult prea lung. Dar la un moment dat ceva, cumva trebuie sa ofer ca raspuns. Am decis sa-ncep c-un articol mai mult sau mai putin enciclopedic despre Nietzsche, Also Sprach Zarathustra si – intr-un viitor apropiat - Zamolxis.

In primul rand si foremost, eu nu prea am studiat filozofia la scoala – de fapt, deloc. Putinul pe care-l stiu e cules din sinteze si mai putin din citirea directa a operelor filozofice. Nietzsche este unul din filozofii pe care as vrea sa-i aprofundez, dar n-am facut-o inca.zamo 1st poster

Chiar daca as stii despre ce vorbesc, tot as incerca sa evit o prezentare dogmatica a lui Nietzsche. Subectul nietzsche a fost deja atacat cu maiestrie de mai multi cavaleri ai tastaturii, cum ar fi strelnikov, comisarul societatii tlon, cu stil si-n faze avansate. Cum ziceam, eu voi incerca sa ma ocup de baza, cu atat mai mult cu cat simt ca Nietzsche este unul din filozofii cu stayin’ powa.

Nu stiu ce am, ca de cate ori ii scriu numele, ii mananc un “s”. Dac-ar fi sa sintetizez cu tot cu “s” gandirea sa, a criticat moralitatea si moravurile crestine cu scopul probabil de a elibera si descatusa intelectul uman. A cautat explicatii simple, atavice pentru moralitatea si concepte generale si a considerat cautarea si exercitarea puterii ca unul din factorii primari in istoria speciei si in relatiile interumane. Cred ca viziunea sa oarecum sumbra asupra lumii are de a face cu sanatatea sa precara si durerea fizica ce l-a chinuit mai tot timpu’.

Probabil cel mai eficient mod de a-i prezenta opera si gandirea este sa bag o lista de citate. Care este ea:

A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.

In heaven all the interesting people are missing.

In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.

Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.

It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!

Man is the cruellest animal.

No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

One must have a good memory to be able to keep the promises one makes.

Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it.

The overman...Who has organized the chaos of his passions, given style to his character, and become creative. Aware of life's terrors, he affirms life without resentment.

The visionary lies to himself, the liar only to others.

To forget one's purpose is the commonest form of stupidity.

To predict the behaviour of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence.

What else is love but understanding and rejoicing in the fact that another person lives, acts, and experiences otherwise than we do…?

When one has much to put into them, a day has a hundred pockets.

When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.

You need chaos in your soul to give birth to a dancing star.

There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.

But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! (Also Sprach Zarathustra, Chapter 29)

Digressions, objections, delight in mockery, carefree mistrust are signs of health; everything unconditional belongs in pathology. (Beyond Good and Evil)

Poets are shameless with their experiences: they exploit them. (Beyond Good and Evil)

He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.  (Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 146)

What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil. (Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 153)

Only sick music makes money today. (Der Fall Wagner, Section 5)

The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends. (Ecce Homo, Foreword)

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. (The Antichrist, section 16)

What is good? All that heightens the feeling of power in man, the will to power, power itself. What is bad? All that is born of weakness. What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome. (The Antichrist, section 2)

Christianity is called the religion of pity. (The Antichrist, Section 7)

The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. (The Dawn, Sec. 297)

God is dead. (The Gay Science, section 108)

Morality is herd instinct in the individual. (The Gay Science, section 116)

The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. (The Gay Science, section 130)

To find everything profound - that is an inconvenient trait. It makes one strain one's eyes all the time, and in the end one finds more than one might have wished. (The Gay Science, section 158)

We are always in our own company. (The Gay Science, section 166)

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments. (The Gay Science, section 191)

For believe me: the secret for harvesting from existence the greatest fruitfulness and greatest enjoyment is - to live dangerously. (The Gay Science, section 283)

I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more to be than a good dancer. (The Gay Science, section 381)

A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions--as attempts to find out something. Success and failure are for him answers above all. (The Gay Science, section 41)

Out of life's school of war: What does not destroy me, makes me stronger. (The Twilight of the Idols, 1899)

For men are not equal: thus speaks justice. (Thus Spoke Zarathustra)

I am a law only for my kind, I am no law for all. (Thus Spoke Zarathustra)

It is nobler to declare oneself wrong than to insist on being right - especially when one is right. (Thus Spoke Zarathustra)

Not by wrath does one kill, but by laughter. (Thus Spoke Zarathustra)

What does not kill me, makes me stronger. (Twilight of the Idols, 1888)

Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's? (Twilight of the Idols, Maxims and Arrows)

Plato is boring.  (Twilight of the Idols, What I owe to the Ancients)

O alta metoda, si ea buna, ar fi o lista de clipuri, incepand cu muzica lui Strauss, folosita in 2001: A Space Oddissey, documentarul BBC, dar si scene din jocul de computer omonim (xenosaga III). Voila!

In intru in detalii si recomand carti necitite.

Sources / More info: stanford-nietzsche, wiki-nietzsche, nietzsche-quotations, zarathustra-google-images, flickr-also-sprach, cartoon, music-strauss-nietzsche, lena-hades-oil-paintings, xenosaga-III-game, tlon-nietzscheology1, tlon-lesley-chamberlain1, yt

14 comments:

  1. kool! deci topicu e imens, oricum misto abordarea ta neconventionala [i'll look into that xenosaga 3 :P]

    genial citatu asta [multi uita cat de ironic era N, vad in el doar un guru or smth]:

    At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.

    f tare si pictorialu'

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  2. exact, asta-i problema cu interpretarea operei sale: putini reusesc sa evite dogmatizarea.

    cel mai ironic este ca si Iisus tot ca revolutionar a-nceput, luptandu-se cu status quo-ul, fariseii si establishmentu'. si-odata ce toata lumea l-a adoptat ca stindard, si spusele lui au devenit dogma..

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  3. u know, e una din cartile tari de saramago, cu jesus, si acolo nu numa' oamenii - but god itself il "prinde'n capcana" pe jesus, il face sa crape pt status quo-ul divin :)

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  4. aici ai venit pe frecventa mea! il iubesc pe Nietzche! IL ADOR! toata viata am avut o preferinta stranie pentru negativi si negativisti. nu prea spun asta, ca mi-e teama sa nu cumva sa fiu gresit inteleasa. nu am nimic diabolic, nu am aderente pe terenul maleficului, dar am murit de dragul negativului, pentru ca acolo e depozitul universal al puterii. nu mi-am facut modele din lucifer, sau castro, sau doamne fereste, hitler, macchiaveli, dar asta mi-a placut: unde e treaba mai incurcata,mai eclectica si mai controversata, acolo sa bag nasul. si sunt sigura ca au avut locul lor determinant in istoria planetei. ce s-ar fi facut omenirea fara ei?asa, si nietzche mi-a placut tarziu dupa ce am terminat liceul, pe vremea aia nu aveam acces la el. foarte misto, asa grait-a zarathustra, mi-a dat peste cap teoriile pe care le halisem despre religie. mai nou am dat peste shrek, care e convins ca noi suntem intr-un program al extraterestrilor, si ca pentru ei suntem doar un ADN pus la pastrare. da, si mai am pe un dvd also sprach zarathustra, al lui strauss, in interpretarea orchestrei lui H. von Karajan. o ascult rar.

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  5. despre ce carte vorbeste strelnikov, evanghelia dupa Iisus Cristos? n-o gasesc, o caut de o juma de an. si mai caut o carte de care am auzit candva, dar nu mai stiu titlul. era ceva cu... de ce are biblia copertile negre.

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  6. scuze ca n-am raspuns mai devreme, sunt un pic cam prins in treburi.

    @strelnikov: n-am jucat xenosaga, dar l-am gasit pe iutub si m-a distrat ca ideile lui Nietzsche (sau macar titlurile) se (re)gasesc in jocuri manga - e ceva similar cu imaginea lui Iisus sponsorand razboaie sau chipul lui Che pe tricouri :)

    inquiring minds want 2 know: care din cartile astea de saramago?

    Dr. Lecter: daca-l iubesti si tu, poate facem un menage a 3 intr-o zi (aici ii zicem threesome). la modul intelectual desigur, fiindca 1. e male si 2. nu cred ca le-avea p-astea.

    cat despre negativism, este ce da vietii farmec. daca totul e disneyland, te plictisesti - asta zice si el in faza cu raiul. totusi, prea mult negativism devine obositor. in ce ma priveste, vreau yin dar vreau si yang (iarasi, la modul nesexual).

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  7. mai stiu un niceist ruginit, deci facem menage a quatre

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  8. super-tari floyzii - si-mi place ca da si un link de torrent, de parca stie ca nu-i va supravietui mult clipul acolo :)

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  9. @bonobo: oricum the japz are crazy: vazusem la un moment dat un joc inspirat din chopin [!!] cu muzica de rigoare :)

    cartea e "evanghelia dupa isus" si e cea mai buna chestie de saramago pe care'am bifat'o, chiar tare.

    @lecter: pai e tradusa [bine] la polirom.

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  10. Dar filmul nu l-am vazut. Tare ciudat mi s-a parut finalul asta. Lung si static..

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  11. stii ca americanii le spuneau "yellow monkeys" in timpul razboiului. ei bine, ei au facut o formatie rock cu numele asta si-au inceput sa le vanda muzica :)

    alta faza este ca din pricina sex toys si vaginelor facute din materiale super, barbatii japonezi nu mai reusesc sa ejaculeze in pasarici naturale, li se par ciudate si prost concepute. guvernul japonez este foarte ingrijorat din cauza asta, intrucat au mult batrani si populatia scade rau.

    @catalin: kubrik, frate http://www.kubrick2001.com/ :)

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  12. "li se par ciudate si prost concepute" :)

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  13. Am mai gasit un joc cu nume nietzschean: Beyond Good & Evil:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_&_Evil_(video_game)

    (celalalt fiind la http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenosaga )

    For centuries, the planet Hillys has been bombarded by a relentless alien race. Skeptical of her government's inability to repel the invaders, a rebellious action reporter named Jade sets out to capture the truth. Armed with her camera, dai-jo staff, and fierce determination, she discovers shocking evidence leading to a horrific government conspiracy and is forced to battle an evil she cannot possibly fathom.

    Eligibility: Age 13 and older.

    Content Descriptors: Comic Mischief, Violence

    Beyond Good and Evil Download Features

    Join the Rebellion.

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