Lordul Winston, un bulibasa de doctori britanici cu mustata de porn star al anilor ‘70 si coincidental “professor of fertility studies at Imperial College London” declara ca doctorii si asistentele medicale din Romania si Bulgaria pun pacientii in pericol fiindca nu sunt in stare sa vorbeasca engleza, ca nu sunt obsinuiti sa comunice cu pacientii si ca nu sunt capabili sa comunice nici macar in propria limba:
Nurses from Eastern Europe put NHS patients in danger because they can’t speak proper English, one of Britain’s top doctors has warned. Lord Winston said yesterday that he was particularly worried about those from Romania and Bulgaria who had limited communication skills ‘even in their own language’. He told the House of Lords they had been trained in a ‘completely different way’ to British nurses, and were not used to speaking to doctors or their own patients.
Mai departe, aflam ca britanicilor nu le este permis sa testeze cadrele medicale pregatite in alte tari din Zona Economica Europeana din pricina unor reguli antidiscriminare, dar ca francezii fenteaza regula facand testarea la nivel local, ceea ce-i permis:
Under strict EU laws, the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) watchdog is banned from testing nurses coming in from European countries on either their language or clinical skills. Such tests are deemed to restrict the ‘free movement of labour’ – the same rules apply to doctors. Some countries, however, including France, get round the rules by ensuring candidates are tested by local health boards rather than a national watchdog.
Lordul Kakka(na)r, chirurg, este insa si mai meserias decat colegul sau mustetat:
He told peers the situation was ‘intolerable’.
‘It is not right for fellow practitioners to have to work with these individuals,’ he said.
‘But most of all it is not right for citizens of our country, who at times when they are unwell and becoming patients in our healthcare systems need to be absolutely certain that the practitioners to whom they are exposed are competent, meet the standards required of medical practitioners in our country and therefore can with certainty provide the quality of care that citizens in our country deserve.’
Hearing evidence at the Lords’ inquiry into free EU movement of medical workers, the peers were told that patients were being put at risk by incompetent doctors and nurses who cannot speak English or understand basic medical terms such as ‘nil by mouth’.
“nil” inseamna “nema” adica zero, zilch, nada – chiar daca suna ciudat, greu imi vine-a crede ca vreun roman n-a priceput-o.
Lord Winston said his own experience working abroad had shown him that nurses from Eastern Europe were not used to communicating with doctors or patients. (..) In one case, a GMC spokesman said, a foreign doctor’s husband contacted the council to register her because she could not speak English herself.
Scriam inca din 2007 despre migratia masiva a celor educati si bine-pregatiti. Taierile salariale recente nu au putut decat sa sporeasca migratia medicilor care, cum spuneam in nesanatatea rumuneasca, erau deja cu 40% sub media europeana in 2008 (222 la 100000 de locuitori). Oare cat o mai fi acum? Pe baza datelor furnizate de britanici si stiind cati erau in 2008 putem calcula, ca in clasa a II-a din lumea a III-a:
The number of European nurses registering to work in Britain has doubled since strict checks on their competence – including language skills – were scrapped last October. In the first five months alone, almost 1,500 new nurses arrived.
The General Medical Council said that 22,060 – around 10 per cent – of doctors licensed to work in the UK were from the European Economic Area, including 1,862 doctors who qualified in Romania and 722 with Bulgarian qualifications.
UK va urma asadar exemplul francez de misculatii:
'But we want to go further, working with the GMC, to strengthen the whole system of local checks on the suitability of doctors, including their communication skills. Responsible officers will have a key role to play in this.'
Cam asta fu articolu’ mama. Ian sa videm in continoari daca-i broblem real.
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Parca ar fi multe de zis, dar cam toate fara mare impact ca sa zic asa. Pe langa sursa Daily Mail (care totusi e tabloid), nu prea pricep care ar fi directiile in fond. Oricum din cate stiu eu exista un interviu de angajare si deci nu cred ca se pune problema sa angajeze un medic care nu vorbeste limba engleza. Altfel spus, imi pare totusi ca daca e sa scrii pe tema s-ar merita mai degraba cautate ceva informatii serioase dincolo de tabloide si mers pe esenta mai degraba decat pe chestiunea "arzatoare" de "printip". Pana la urma ar fi totusi mai interesant de aflat in fond cum stau medicii si asistentele din Romania la capitolul comunicare pe bune cu pacientii. Ma rog, macar cand e timp pentru asa ceva.
ReplyDeleteSigur ca-s mai multe de zis, de-aia am si spart articolul in bucati. Problema-i spinoasa fiindca totusi britanicii au avut una dintre cele mai deschise piete ale muncii deci reactiile protectioniste si xenofobe sunt mai scuzabile. Pe de alta parte, medicii sunt poate cea mai protectionista breasla - aici sunt suficiente de zis pentru cateva articole.
ReplyDeleteIntamplarea face ca articolele care urmeaza citeaza zdravan din Economist si NYT, totusi nu consider faptul ca DM e tabloid ca fiind relevant. Un astfel de tabloid e "special" prin modul cum prezinta o stire si genul de stiri prezentate, dar (cu cateva exceptii bine-cunoscute) stirile nu sunt mincinoase. Nimic nu te impiedica sa iei un tabloid ca sursa si sa prezinti / interpretezi / comentezi stirea cu cuvintele tale :)
Eh, chestiunea gingasa e fix de ce anume din "stire" e prezentare si ce anume e realitate. Si treaba e ca parca mai degraba as citi gandurile autorului pe tema, si nu prezentarea in cuvintele sale. Ca stiu ca le are cuvintele, dar importanta e ....parerea :) Cel putin pentru mine.
ReplyDeleteOpiniile fara context nu prea au valoare si sunt mai greu de-nteles. Nu cred ca poate fi pus sub semnul indoielii ca House of Lords investigheaza muncitorii straini si piata muncii si ca Winston a aparut in fata lor. Odata prezentat contextul parerea nu ia mai mult de 5 propozitii.
ReplyDeleteOricum, e evident ca aceste critici pe care le aduc ei strainilor (nu vb bine engleza) sunt valabile in orice domeniu, nu numai in medicina. Diferenta este ca oamenii sunt mult mai sensibilosi cand e vorba de viata lor, asta fiind si motivul pentru care medicii in general sunt tinuti intr-asa un high esteem. Cand vin medici straini ei ajung in aceeasi pozitie si sunt disruptive pentru colegii lor nascuti acolo care au dezvoltat un sistem de "buna comunicare" si expertiza mai slaba, gen homeopathy.
Bun, deci tu spui in fapt ca problema reala e faptul ca strainii sunt mai bine pregatiti medical si atunci se arunca argumente gen comunicare ca sa nu se strice confortul localnicilor (medici). Zic ca la o adica asta ar fi mai interesant de discutat si explorat. Adica argumentele in directia asta daca sunt.
ReplyDeleteNu chiar, dar public partea urmatoare (chit c-o scheduled abia in cateva zile) fiindca discutia mere-n partea ceea oricum.
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