Clusterfunk to Cotroceni IV – results 1  

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After let’s see who won and why..

keep-calm-and-vote-vlad-tepes-1Here’s how the 977 Toronto voters voted, according to a friend who acted as an observer:

  1. Iohannis: 470 (48.11%)
  2. Macovei: 282 (28.86%)
  3. Ponta: 88 (9.01%)
  4. Udrea: 61 (6.24%)
  5. Tariceanu: 43 (4.40%)

The above is quite different from the rest of Canada (total: Iohannis – 1337; Macovei – 740; Ponta – 236) or USA (Iohannis – 3473; Macovei – 1461; Ponta – 559).

The final diaspora results were (from the official XLS):
  1. Klaus Iohannis – 45.83%
  2. Victor Ponta – 15.79%
  3. Monica Macovei – 15.09%
  4. Elena Udrea – 9.71%
  5. Dan Diaconescu – 4.23%
  6. Călin Popescu Tăriceanu – 2.93%
  7. Corneliu Vadim Tudor – 2.86%
  8. Teodor Meleşcanu – 0.85%
  9. Kelemen Hunor – 0.55%
  10. Gheorghe Funar – 0.54%
  11. William Brînză – 0.53%
  12. Zsilagiy Zsolt – 0.18%
  13. Constantin Rotaru – 0.11%
  14. Mircea Amaritei – 0.06%

I’m not sure how things went after I left, but I don’t think voting in Toronto went as bad as in New York, where people waited a very long time in a line-up, or in Paris, where voting was slowed by poor organization, police was called and the chief told Romanians that Romania is a trash can and wherever they go, they cause problems.

The 3.2 million Romanians living in diaspora (not counting those with dual citizenship, such as the 350000+ Moldovans, but including minors) can be found in this top 10 (hn-topd).
  • Italia - aproximativ 993.000 de cetateni romani. Se voteaza la : ROMA, FROSINONE, LADISPOLI, PALESTRINA, TIVOLI, NAPOLI, PERUGIA, PESCARA, CAGLIARI, OSTIA, BOLOGNA, FLORENTA, AREZZO, GROSSETO, LIVORNO, ANCONA, MILANO, BRESCIA, BERGAMO, MANTOVA, TRENTO, TRIESTE, VENETIA, TREVISO, VERONA, PADOVA, UDINE, TORINO, ALESSANDRIA, CUNEO, NOVARA, VERCELLI, AOSTA, GENOVA, LA SPEZIA, SANREMO, CATANIA, CANICATTI, REGGIO DI CALABRIA, BARI, FOGGIA, VARESE, SONDRIO, LECCO, COMO, FERMO, COSENZA.
  • Spania - 922.000 de persoane. Se voteaza la: MADRID, COSLADA, ALCALA DE HENARES, GETAFE, ARGANDA DEL REY, MOSTOLES, BURGOS, TOLEDO, GUADALAJARA, SEVILLA, MALAGA, MOTRIL, MURCIA, BARCELONA, LERIDA, REUS, PALMA DE MALLORCA, BILBAO, LOGRONO, PAMPLONA, ZARAGOZA, CALATAYUD, CIUDAD REAL, ALBACETE, ALMERIA, CASTELLON DE LA PLANA, VALENCIA, ALICANTE, LEPE, SANTIAGO DE COMPOSTELA, CORDOBA, GIJON.
  • SUA - aproximativ 476.000 de persoane. Se voteaza la: WASHINGTON D.C., ATLANTA, CHARLOTTE, CLEVELAND, DALLAS, HOLLYWOOD, HOUSTON, NEW YORK, BOSTON, PHILADELPHIA, CHICAGO, DETROIT, MINNEAPOLIS, INDIANAPOLIS, LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, LAS VEGAS, SACRAMENTO, PHOENIX, PORTLAND, Salt Lake City.
  • Germania - 236.000 de persoane. Se voteaza la: BERLIN, HAMBURG, BONN, MUNCHEN, STUTTGART.
  • Marea Britanie - 144.000 de persoane. Se voteaza la: LONDRA, EDINBURGH, NEWCASTLE, LEEDS, LIVERPOOL, BIRMINGHAM, PORTSMOUTH, BRISTOL, BELFAST.
  • Ungaria - 85.000. Se voteaza la: BUDAPESTA, GYULA, SZEGED.
  • Austria - 80.000. Se voteaza la: VIENA si la GRAZ.
  • Belgia - 50.000. Se voteaza la BRUXELLES.
  • Grecia - 47.000. Se voteaza la: ATENA, SALONIC, PATRA.
  • Franta - 45.000 de romani (de precizat ca Franta nu recunoaste minoritatile nationale si, "in consecinta nu exista statistici oficiale in acest domeniu, explica MAE roman, pe site-ul sau)". Se voteaza la: PARIS, MARSILIA, TOULOUSE, STRASBOURG si NANCY.

Only 500000 requested entering in their passport the “foreign domicile” mention. For what is worth, the Institute for Public Policy has offered legal assistance to any member of the diaspora wishing to sue the Romanian government (hn-ipp). Contact Adrian Moraru, Director Adjunct IPP at +4-0724-237-229 for more info, or visit ipp.ro.

Here is, in contrast, how Romanians in Romania voted (blue is Iohannis, red is Ponta, green will most likely become blue).image

What is obvious is that most of Romania is voting Ponta with somewhere around 50% of the vote, except for Transylvania and diaspora, voting Iohannis.

However, the biggest “variable” and bone of contention is not or should not be the diaspora, but rather the many “electoral tourists” who voted on supplemental lists. These people represent over 10% of the final vote (963987 votes) and far more than in 2009, first round, when there were 479196 votes. The total sections where “special voting” was permitted was 3359 in 2009 and 18533 in 2014 (see more on Petreanu’s comparison).

The following are the “electoral tourism” numbers; the first two columns represent the 2014 number, the 3rd is the first round in 2009 and the last column the 4th round in 2009.

1. Ilfov: 19,87% - 39.518 / 21.824 / 26.914
2. Cluj : 15,58% - 51.960 / 19.539 / 29.147
3. Giurgiu: 14,34% - 18.465 / 13.250 / 16.659
4. Timis : 13,73% - 43.463 / 18.822 / 30.487
5. Mehedinti: 13,21% - 17.577 / 13.866 /
6. Olt: 12,87% - 28.542 / 21.436 / 18.894
7. Calarasi: 12,38% - 16.761 / 10.226 / 11.947
8. Iasi: 12,12% - 43.113 / 18.078 / 24.139
9. Valcea: 11,60% - 21.721 / 13.095 / 15.318
10. Salaj: 11,26% - 11.799 / 5.074 / 6.148
11. Teleorman: 10,94% - 20.767 / 16.842 / 18.923
12. Dolj: 10,80% - 34.241 / 20.874 / 26.507
13. Gorj: 10,58% - 17.391 / 12.792 / 14.917

While it is understandable to have a large number of “outsiders” in Ilfov (surrounding Bucharest), Cluj, Iasi and Timisoara (regional higher education and economic subcapitals), the other counties are likely not big tourism spots and a large number of outsiders is not justified. Incidentally, these counties have also voted massively for Ponta.

Here’s an investigation by Rodica Pantazi and Claudiu Zamfir (hn-record).

Intr-un sat din comuna Dragu, judetul Salaj, primul tur al alegerilor prezidentiale a adus la vot de 7 ori mai multe persoane din afara comunei, decat cu domiciliul acolo: 63 de persoane au votat pe liste suplimentare si 9 pe lista permanenta. In aceeasi comuna, alt sat, scorul este 64 pe lista suplimentara la 42 pe lista permanenta. Si in comuna Hida, in aproape toate satele s-au prezentat la urne semnificativ mai multi romani cu domiciliile in alte localitati, decat localnicii. Dupa ce primul tur al alegerilor prezidentiale a inregistrat particularitatea de a avea aproape 11% dintre voturile exprimate pe listele suplimentare (dublu fata de alegerile trecute), HotNews.ro a realizat o selectie a localitatilor unde au votat semnificativ de multe persoane cu domiciliul in alte parti. Vezi in articol care sunt localitatile unde s-au umplut listele suplimentare in judetele Dolj, Salaj, Valcea, Calarasi, Teleorman, Gorj si Mehedinti.
​Viceprimarul comunei Dragu din judetul Salaj, Ioana Boca, a declarat pentru HotNews.ro ca nu isi poate explica cum de au ajuns sa voteze de 7 ori mai multe persoane din afara satului, decat locuitori din sat. “Nu as putea sa va spun. O explicatie rationala ar fi ca sambata a fost sambata mortilor si au venit oamenii acasa, dar asta s-a intamplat in toate satele. Nu stiu sa va spun o explicatie”, a afirmat pentru HotNews.ro Ioana Boca, viceprimar al comunei. Intrebata daca a simtit vreun val de turisti duminica in comuna pe care o conduce, aceasta a ras si a zis: “in niciun caz”.

La primul tur al alegerilor prezidentiale 2014, in Romania au votat pe listele suplimentare de doua ori mai multi romani decat in primul tur al alegerilor prezidentiale din 2009 (anul acesta au votat in alte localitati decat cele de domiciliu 963.987 de persoane, fata de 479.196 in urma cu 5 ani). Per total, aproape 11% dintre romanii care au pus stampila pe cel care vor sa le fie presedinte din decembrie au facut-o din alta parte decat localitatea unde au adresa.

Cristian Pantazi was among the first to call attention to the “supplemental list” fraud (hn-alo).

"La inceput, rezultatele venite aleatoriu din sectiile de votare indicau CONSTANT o diferenta de aproximativ 5 la suta intre Ponta si Iohannis. Ulterior, la 2 dimineata, diferenta s-a dus brusc la 8 la suta. Peste o ora era de 10 procente. Ultimele judete care au comunicat numaratoarea paralela au fost exact cele in care s-au raportat voturi multe pe listele suplimentare. Ultimul judet a fost Olt, unde raportarea se blocase timp de o ora la 60 la suta. Explicatia: listele suplimentare din sectiile de vot fara reprezentanti ACL au venit ultimele. Pe masura ce se adunau datele, voturile pentru Ponta pe aceste liste mareau diferenta fata de Iohannis. Imi pare rau ca nu exista o inregistrare filmata a numaratorii paralele de la ora 22 la ora 4. Se putea vedea cat de ciudata a fost evolutia rezultatelor. La 4 dimineata i-am spus lui Videanu: "Este stranie evolutia raportarilor. Sa cerem numarul voturilor anulate". Cineva mai experimentat a comentat: "Veti vedea ca voturile nule nu sunt problema. Problema sunt voturile de pe listele suplimentare".

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Sources / More info: rlt-mcv, hn-coada, hn-pubelle, lcs-cands, hn-topd, ted-ahmad, hn-engima, hn-ipp, hn-record, hn-alo

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